Tag Archives: detention and demurrage

Detention and Demurrage claims are rolling in

Samsung Electronics of America (SEA) is a major user of container shipping. They have decided to fight back against excessive and frequently undocumented Detention and Demurrage (D&D) bills from carriers. This article spells out the claims.

Overall, Samsung thinks ocean carriers were selling door-to-door service and couldn’t deliver it. So they started billing customers to recover their costs.

The Federal Maritime Commission (FMC) has recently established rules about billing for such services, making the billing more transparent and requiring documentation for each charge. This will help shoppers, who are frequently baffled by the charges.

It’s essential to close down the practice of billing without thorough documentation. Seagate should have lots of winning arguments in these cases. There were so many temporary closures, changing windows for pickup and delivery, and other delays not caused by the shipper during the COVID era and after, that most D&D charges were probably due to slipups out of the shipper’s control, and perhaps even the carrier’s control. Carriers should not be entitled to profit from these.

Seatrade logo

Nick Savvides | Jun 17, 2024

Samsung Electronics America fires D&D claims at carriers

Rail storage fee disputes – STB or FMC?

When containers go by rail to or from ports, we would expect that any detention or storage fees would fall under the Surface Transportation Board (STB) which governs rail traffic in the US. And these fees have become more common, as railroads in the US struggle with manpower shortages, longer trains, lower traffic, and efforts to operate in a leaner fashion. But who to send the bill to?

Many containers are owned by ocean shipping firms, and it would seem like they should be billed if their containers are not picked up in a timely fashion. But it’s the shippers who get the bill.

The Federal Maritime Commission (FMC) has come down with some fairly explicit rules about detention and demurrage charges. The rules specify who is billed, what information must be provided and when, and how disagreements over bills can be resolved, through a process. But when the charges are from rail detention, the FMC claims they have no jurisdiction.

Shippers think the ocean carriers should be billed, and bill disputes be handled at the FMC under the new rules. But ocean carriers think the STB should handle rail demurrage.

I don’t think this can be settled without some Congressional input. It’s one of the gray areas that come up often in logistics, where many partners collaborate to move cargo or cause delays. The parties are never going to agree. For ocean carriers the divided authority is just fine; since they are not getting the rail bills, they have no stake in disputes.

We just need to get a single point of oversight, to lay down rules, like those of the FMC, for demurrage and detention charges including the rail lines. It’s a big ‘just’.

John Gallagher·Friday, May 05, 2023

Ocean carriers: Keep rail storage fee disputes at STB – FreightWaves

Shippers and carriers caught up in new D&D legal battles

There’s no end to the confusion surrounding Detention and Demurrage (D&D) charges for ocean container movements landside. This recital of some recent lawsuits shows that firms are not passing on information that would allow actual determination of accurate D&D charges.

Tthe FMC is starting to crack down on billing that isn’t complete, but some firms may not comply right away, and of course there are older cases which did not come under the recent rule.

The recourse is the courts, and that’s what’s happening now. The supply chain ‘partners’ in the move are handing off responsibility one to another. The Hapag-Lloyd story, involving a forwarder ME Dey, their haulier New Age Logistics, CSX Rail, and Hapag, is just such a case. One claim being made is that the haulier asked to use their chassis to haul the containers to avoid the D&D charges; but they were told that they could not do that, because the containers “belonged to the steamship line”. This kind of nonsensical behavior is not cooperation, and does not facilitate good supply chain relations. Expect more lawsuits!

By Nick Savvides 25/04/2023

Shippers and carriers caught up in new D&D legal battles – The Loadstar